Trope Talk: Greatest Fears

11 dec. 2020
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Ahh, fear! What a maligned concept. But everyone's afraid of something, and some stories really like putting the spotlight on what scares their characters the most. At worst it's a very effective halloween episode, at best it turns into a deep and gripping exploration of their character! Let's discuss how the Greatest Fear trope gets used and abused!
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  • One of my favorite (2 part) episodes of Magic Knight Rayearth, a magnificent "magical girl" X Isekai anime from 1995, is one where they have to endure a trail for their magical powerup. When they finally reach the trail zone, they are isolated, and each of the central trio are faced with a personalized foe: Hikaru faces a rabid dog, Umi faces her parents, and Fuu faces herself. The first part then fades out, leaving it legitimately ambiguous weather or not they have to fight their greatest fear, or the thing they love the most. I have yet to see another show try this, and it's a huge testament to how much more depth it has than most shoujo and shounen, especially 90's.

    RatcardoRatcardoAcum 7 ore
  • 12:03 Flash having the same nightmare every night, unprompted by supervillain shenanigans is equal parts terrifying and kind of heart warming. Like, it's clear that his whole comedic energy is a front to hide how scared he is all the time, but the fact that he manages to be a good person despite all this is really inspiring

    ParadoxNerdHLMParadoxNerdHLMAcum o Zi
  • I always find it interesting everytime the character's greatest fear is represented by a monster in a closet because it tell something about a character even if the show never intended to.

    Isabella P.Isabella P.Acum 2 Zile
  • I hate advertisers. Sponsors nearly as much... Fuck. Go listen to the Magnus Archives. If you like horror, it'll give you chills. If you don't like horror, it'll keep you up at night, but in a good way.

    Borden FleetwoodBorden FleetwoodAcum 4 Zile
  • There was a character in person of interest that had regular conversation with finch's machine and was tortured by a government lady by having her hearing destroyed in one ear with the threat of losing it fully Later she gets a implant in her damaged ear to always hear the machines voice making her terrifying to me and other characters in the show itself

    GOLBY _GOLBY _Acum 7 Zile
  • me: "wow, that's very cool, id like to do something like that." me : *looks around at all my characters and monster ideas* me: "... oh. I already did."

    Sarah AckroydSarah AckroydAcum 7 Zile
  • greatest fear... Magnus Archive... ohhhh-

    Snails TheDepressedSnails TheDepressedAcum 10 Zile
  • I'm reminded of the fear episode from Extreme Ghostbusters, naturally Eduardo was afraid of death, Kylie was afraid of maggots, Roland was afraid of technology betraying him, Garret was claustrophobic. Slimer was afraid of steamed broccoli.

    XenunnakiXenunnakiAcum 10 Zile
  • Have you ever seen a Heart’s Desire stock episode? An episode where the heroes are tempted by their Heart Desire come true and has to choose between it or staying a hero. Usually when the hero chooses the former the hero regrets it pretty soon (maybe their absence created a crisis and they have to abandon their desire to solve it, maybe they realize their mission has become more important to them or maybe it was a trap from the villain and they trapped in a fake or simulated version of their desire)

    CaitSeithCaitSeithAcum 14 Zile
  • Another great example is the second episode of Doom Patrol with the mysteries and failures of the characters being hinted at all while the wonderful Alan Tudyk plays the villain controlling the realities through narration.

    Absolute CarnageAbsolute CarnageAcum 14 Zile

    fishyfishyAcum 19 Zile
  • One of my favorite greatest fear episodes is in teen titans the original not go when they all watch a scary movie and Raven is so scared about it but won’t admit it that she accidentally makes the monster real and it only goes away when she admits that she was afraid which is perfectly and character for her Because her powers are controlled by her emotions

    Tom CurlTom CurlAcum 21 o Zi
  • I only like this trope when the hero DOESN'T immediately overcome it.

    Commissar PurityCommissar PurityAcum 22 Zile
  • Tony Stark's greatest fear is space, I think

    Zoobie the PopplioZoobie the PopplioAcum 22 Zile
  • Stock episode of the new LOTR series better be Sauron making a grocery run or something

    Toz AergaToz AergaAcum 22 Zile
  • So casually drop a Scarecrow or Yellow Lantern villain in the story and see what unfolds. Also have the characters question themselves.

    MoveSpammerGuy team7colorsMoveSpammerGuy team7colorsAcum 22 Zile
  • Me: *does greatest fear trope* Also me: Yall are not going to overcome it yet.

    Ethan HartyEthan HartyAcum 22 Zile
  • To be fair, Jesus was a victim.

    KrazyKaiserKrazyKaiserAcum 24 Zile
  • Here’s a possible way to play with this. I have an antagonist who has a greatest fear. His name is Zeno. Zeno’s greatest fear appears to be the protagonist’s loyal dragon Phantom after nearly slaughtering him in the first book. Phantom despises Zeno with all his heart and wants to destroy him, but never gets the chance because Zeno is smart, skilled, and has enough mooks to protect him. However, in the moments leading up to his death, Zeno is on his own. Phantom is also incapacitated, leaving Athena, the wisecracking, sarcastic, yet unwilling to kill protagonist to finish Zeno. In their final fight Athena is uncharacteristically silent and ruthless. This is when Zeno’s true fear is revealed: he’s not specifically afraid of Phantom. He’s afraid of dying, and losing everything he’s accumulated through his newfound power. Basically, it’s not just protagonists who can have greatest fears, and maybe what they believe is their greatest fear is just a product of their real fear. They’ve been facing the wrong demon.

    PythoxPythoxAcum 24 Zile
  • I love the Clone Wars stock episode that turns into a U-Boat movie parody.

    Arthur RobinsonArthur RobinsonAcum lună
  • I'm actually surprised you didn't bring up It by Stephen King since Pennywise is the personification of fear.

    Ashleigh TompkinsAshleigh TompkinsAcum lună
  • Another thing with hawkgirls fear is how it contrasts the other 3, superman, flash, and green lantern all grew up living normal human lives, even superman, he thought he was a normal human until his powers began showing, so each of their fears relate to no longer being "human" they're afraid of losing control, whereas hawkgirl was born with her wings, she has no reason to fear them, instead, she grew up with the freedom that those wings granted her, and so, she is afraid of losing that freedom.

    Luke CantwellLuke CantwellAcum lună
  • I’m not finished with the game yet, but so far Omori plays with the greatest fear trope really well. The protagonist is plagued by specific phobias that prevent the party from reaching different zones. Only by learning how to deal with these fears can the game move forward. Ex. A fear of spiders initially prevents you from going into a creepy forest blocked by a giant spider web. But overcoming the fears let’s you cut down the web and move forward. It’s very neat.

    Serene PastelSerene PastelAcum lună
  • I was thinking Finn from adventure time fear of the ocean. Those episodes were so good.

    Angie_the_AlienAngie_the_AlienAcum lună
  • I want to see this trope with a silly fear but instead of the teammates making fun of the silly fear they are sympathetic and try to help their friend

    The Cat PageThe Cat PageAcum lună
  • Bojack Horseman’s view from Halfway down isn’t really a greatest fear episode. But its a dream episode that broke me, such a visual treat to watch

    Noobmaster RubenNoobmaster RubenAcum lună
  • 13:33 Can someone please tell me the big spoiler? It piqued my interest but cba to watch the show atm.

    CheesecakeLasagnaCheesecakeLasagnaAcum lună
  • The captions are really off-base this time

    Nomad94Nomad94Acum lună
  • Stock episodes? Alternate universes? Oh! You mean the entirety of the Backyardigans!!

    GemsineyeGemsineyeAcum lună
  • "this episode is sponsored by the Magnus Archives!" me: *vibrating uncontrollably* oh?

    MothpawbsMothpawbsAcum lună
  • 11:05 ...that is suprisingly less scary than the Sandman version of Dr Destiny.

    AbsolX GuardianAbsolX GuardianAcum lună
  • I'm curcious if Rusty Quill sponsored you, so you chose a trope that applied to TMA, or they just sensed you were doing a relevant Trope Talk

    AbsolX GuardianAbsolX GuardianAcum lună
  • One of my favorites of these fear reveals was for Bulkhead in Transformers Prime. It starts out like the joke fear reveal. The big, burly robot is scared to death of these tiny hungry toy robot things to the point that he has a high pitched scream. But then he reveals this fear is more primal and rooted in PTSD. He's personally SEEN the bitty Scraplets eat a cybertronian alive from the inside out. He's so afraid of them because he knows the real threat they pose.

    TaximaTaximaAcum lună
  • 2 examples of this trope i personally liked were: - DOOM PATROL's episode "Jane Patrol" that manages to hit all the good marks of a "face your fears" episode, but with the spin in the formula that, technically speaking revealing Jane's greatest fear is the revelation of the episode also revealing her trauma AND Backstory Also the interesting part that, the titular Jane, had no intention of facing her fear. She was in a basically catatonic state and only decided to face her fear not to save herself, but to save someone else - The Ultimate Spider-Man episode where Nightmare and Doctor Strange make their debuts. It has from the fears that reveal something more about their characters (Power Man and Iron Fist (especially this one given he was tritagonist in this episode)), and the comedic ones (white tiger (who will later on get a more introspective episode) and nova (who at that point in the series was a jerk so it is technically fine to don't go deep into his fear)). AND THEN We have Spider-Man. what is his greatest fear? he already lived through it. and is facing it everyday. And it was kinda refreshingly impressive that Spider-Man actually managed to turn the usual "fear hallucination" into a comfortive moment for him. And was able to start the ball rolling to defeat a cosmic entity (the titular nightmare) and save everyone

    Ian R. Nava HuberIan R. Nava HuberAcum lună
  • 7:00 I feel called out by that-

    Tirzah DavisTirzah DavisAcum lună
  • The only like greatest fear nightmare episode that ever actually really fucked with me was the fucking magicians one it does its job really fucking well

    Bryce WeislerBryce WeislerAcum lună
  • 13:25 When you think about it, it kinda does reveal something about, just with a bit of subtlety. It suggests that she feels trapped. It just doesn’t reveal what she feels trapped by. Or maybe I’m reading too much into it.

    Malcontent 7Malcontent 7Acum lună
  • This is why the beggar's in harry potter always disappointed me. They're supposed to show your greatest fear, but how many peoples greatest fear can be represented by a thing like that? Especially after the first book tackling the hearts desire. I mean Ron's heart desire is to succeed and prove himself when everyone around him has already done it, but his greatest fear is spiders? No.

    Kate BKate BAcum lună
  • I love this trope. I always look forward to these kinds of episodes.

    silvertonguersilvertonguerAcum lună
  • Maybe the real greatest fear was the friends we made along the way

    Pangol-Inn TakeawayPangol-Inn TakeawayAcum lună
  • I’m in agreement with Doof _Those vending machines are out to get us_

    PlaydoughMasterPlaydoughMasterAcum lună
  • So that one Veggietales movie is a Stock movie?

    PlaydoughMasterPlaydoughMasterAcum lună
  • Just in case I'm in a piece of media I'M VERY AFRAID OF MONEY. I COULDN'T TAKE IT IF I WON THE LOTTERY.

    Stealthyshart 21Stealthyshart 21Acum lună
  • Of course the greatest fears video was sponsored by tma, what else was I expecting?

    Jade SingerJade SingerAcum lună
  • To be fair the Joker is probably the greatest fear for some of the DCU citizens and that's a completely justified fear of clowns

    Hannah 246Hannah 246Acum lună
  • My personal favorite Greatest Fear episode is Enchanting Grom Freight in Owl House. The entire thing is framed as a Prom meets deathmatch where a student at the school Hexside has to slay a demon who shapeshifts into their greatest fear. The main character’s greatest fear was the guilt that would come with her mother lying to her.

    FerretWithAHatFerretWithAHatAcum lună
  • Related: my LEAST favorite stock episode is the one where the main characters make a wager to see who can go the longest without doing the thing that's become their painfully over exaggerated defining trait

    datpolakmikedatpolakmikeAcum lună
  • Let's not forget the 'switch minds' stock episode--aka one of my own greatest fears. (seriously. I can't even watch the scene in Cars 2 when Mater has to impersonate another tow truck because I loathe the concept so much.)

    Mary StratfordMary StratfordAcum lună
  • "I must not fear. Fear is a mind-killer. Without this fear, I only die once. I will face my fear and let it pass through and over me. When the fear is gone, only I will remain."

    LUGERshom Dela CruzLUGERshom Dela CruzAcum lună
  • Your sponsor for this episode is totally a ripoff of SCP foundation. Which in itself is a ripoff of X-Files. Nothing new under the sun I guess

    Craig LocklearCraig LocklearAcum lună
  • Right after watching this, ROlabel decided I needed an ad for a horror movie themed around sleep and nightmares 🙃🙃🙃

    AlexAlexAcum 2 luni

    ChainAttack641ChainAttack641Acum 2 luni
  • Red needs to write a book: don’t try to change my mind.

    DragonkittyQueen MGADragonkittyQueen MGAAcum 2 luni
  • Regarding Hawkgirl in that Justice League episode, her fear being extremely mundane compared to the others makes perfect sense when you remember that her powers are entirely normal parts of her species and culture. Flash and Green Lantern got their powers after they were adults, and Superman's abilities are natural but he was raised in a context where they were deeply abnormal. So it makes sense for all of them to feel somewhat insecure about them. But it wouldn't make much sense for Hawkgirl's deepest fear to be related to her wings or flying, any more than it would make sense for a human's deepest fear to be about walking. (Not that a fear of walking is necessarily impossible, just that it's more likely to be something else.)

    Michael RamonMichael RamonAcum 2 luni
  • Neil Gaiman has the best rendition of Dr. Destiny imo

    Casual ObserverCasual ObserverAcum 2 luni
  • I love how Justice League provides a lot of useful examples of tropes! Always great to see it referenced

    J̵̄a̱c͟r̶ā͞d̵J̵̄a̱c͟r̶ā͞d̵Acum 2 luni
  • I'd live to see a Greatest fear expand on an idea I liked in Hunter x Hunter. There Kurrapika, the stoic cool guy, has a hate/fear of Spiders. It's played for laughs at first but then we find out that the Spiders is actually the name of an evil organization that killed his entire rice and whom he's sworn vengeance against.

    The NarratorThe NarratorAcum 2 luni
  • Celeste: Hold my strawberry

    TemmieTubeTemmieTubeAcum 2 luni
  • Concept: We get one of these episodes and it seems at first that their fear is something mundane and silly at first causing their friends to tease them for it, only for the teasing to get crueler and more out of character as time goes on until we find out the characters real fear was that their friends wouldn't like them anymore if they found out they had some kind of past trauma that left them with a seemingly irrational fear of dolls or something and they will lose their friends and be seen as a laughing stock. I'm sure i just basically paraphrased the plot of some episode out there somewhere but hey, it seems like an obvious subversion of the trope so if it doesn't exist, i would be surprised.

    Sack fuSack fuAcum 2 luni
  • In the Anamaniacs reboot, they did a parody of the nightmare episode. Nickelwise the clown scares people to death, so, he gets all three of them alone and freaks them out. Dot’s afraid of old age (not being cute anymore) and she quickly stares at the old variant of her in the mirror and said ‘You look amazing honey!’ And Nickelwise gets smaller and runs away. Wakko’s fear is that he’ll eat something and it won’t do anything for him or that it’s plastic. He eats the plastic anyway. Yakko’s fear is not being found funny. He’s put in an office building and his soul gets sucked out. The other two find him, shove his soul back in, they collectively roast Nickelwise back to the sewers and Nickelwise dies.

    Doctor Death DefyingDoctor Death DefyingAcum 2 luni
  • I don't think the idea that a greatest fear and a greatest desire are OPPOSED is accurate. It's more accurate to say that they're probably thematically RELATED in some way - for example, a lot of characters I find extremely compelling are ones whose greatest fear is that they'll GET their greatest desire (perhaps because they believe themselves intrinsically untrustworthy; perhaps because they believe the closest they'll get is the monkey's paw edition of what they wanted, etc.)

    Bennie WandersBennie WandersAcum 2 luni
  • 11:35 what the fuck

    Fran L. LosandFran L. LosandAcum 2 luni
  • Gotta admit, I didn't think this would be about series but about movies... like Frozen or Rise of the Guardians...

    Joyful SorrowJoyful SorrowAcum 2 luni
  • The Undertaker is afraid of cucumbers. The grappling undead mortician biker wizard cult leader is afraid of cucumbers.

    Shadow NomadShadow NomadAcum 2 luni

    The Lonely GhostThe Lonely GhostAcum 2 luni
  • So in conclusion... Hello Jon. Apologies for the deception, but I rather wanted to make sure you started reading, so I thought it best not to announce myself. I’m assuming you’re alone; you always did prefer to read your statements in private. I wouldn’t try too hard to stop reading; there’s every likelihood you’ll just hurt yourself.

    Caleb DouglasCaleb DouglasAcum 2 luni
  • "'s currently in it's final season" I didn't need the reminder, I'm already terrified about what I'm going to do with myself once it ends

    Caleb DouglasCaleb DouglasAcum 2 luni
  • Reminds me of that one teen titans episode about raven

    jamie kingjamie kingAcum 2 luni
  • One of the best ones is Annabeth's Arachnophobia . For context, this fear was set up in The Lightning Thief but the true payoff was shown 6 books later. In the Mark of Athena, she gets a solo-quest to retrieve Athena's big-ass statue from Arachne the spider-lady and her hundreds of regular spiders. Bear in mind, Annabeth KNEW the spiders were there and yet she willingly took the quest anyway. In short, this is way she's my favourite Demigod.

    J KuJ KuAcum 2 luni
  • After rewatching this for the 3rd time I started thinking of Ranma 1/2 due to the simple reason that Ranma is revealed to have felinophobia and it is played for comedy but makes it very clear that he has a VERY good reason for his fear. I mean, wouldn't anyone be afraid of cats if they were wrapped in a cat's favorite food while being surrounded by cats repeatedly because their father thought a good way to help rid them of the newfound fear would be to EXPERIENCE THE TRAMA ALL OVER AGAIN.

    issac thompsonissac thompsonAcum 2 luni
  • Besides, we already got an episode of Batman's fear way back in Scarecrow's debut episode in Batman the Animated Series. As it turns out, his greatest fear is that he is shaming the family name and his father would think him a failure and disgrace. He would conquer his face by declaring the classic line. You all know what it is.

    foldabotZfoldabotZAcum 2 luni
  • Read the title as Greatest Pears...

    Smartin TinSmartin TinAcum 2 luni
  • Surprised you didn’t bring the teen Titans episodes “Haunted” and “Fear itself”. In haunted you get to see Robin haunted by the defeated Slade through some form of hallucinogenic dust, where the main conflict turns out to be is robins fear of Slade returning coming between him and his team? Fear itself is arguably better, as after watching a horror movie, Raven tries to suppress her fear, and due to the emotion based nature of her powers the fear manifests as the monster from the movie and starts picking the team of one by one, only being undone when raven accepts that she is afraid and is actually allowed to fear things.

    Aleksandar KaticAleksandar KaticAcum 2 luni
  • Can we get more stock episodes? Specifically the color coded copy episodes

    AaronAaronAcum 2 luni
  • One story I’d like to mention is the Doctor Who Episode “Dalek”. In that, the Doctor- who is at this point a veteran of a war that destroyed his home planet and the enemy force, leaving him the last survivor- finds another survivor of the war, but it’s a soldier of the enemy force, a Dalek. So here, the Doctor is confronted with his Greatest Fear, a surviving Dalek, and it finally forces him to confront the traumas and what he did in the war.

    Samuel BarberSamuel BarberAcum 2 luni
  • 2:33 *hint hint* batman *hint hint*

    Ashie LilystarAshie LilystarAcum 2 luni
  • My favorite Justice League episode!

    Amanda BurrisAmanda BurrisAcum 2 luni
  • Supernaturals take on this is that your greatest wish reveals alot too.

    Rory BeckstromRory BeckstromAcum 2 luni
  • How about Indiana Jones being afraid of snakes!

    Bill KeckBill KeckAcum 2 luni
  • Can I just say, it’s really cool that Rusty Quill sponsored this, I’ve been a fan of TMA for a while.

    A Mole PersonA Mole PersonAcum 2 luni
  • Me clicking on this video: i wonder if red will talk abt the magnus archives Video: *THIS VIDEO IS SPONSORED BY THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES* im not complaining i am VERY pleasantly surprised :D

    CentimetresCentimetresAcum 2 luni
  • Yikes, I'm actually thinking of a character whose whole shtick is he can trap enemies in hallucinations and he's also kinda psychic himself so can and will probe for weaknesses before launching an attack. But mostly he just use it for the fear factor when fighting in melee, kinda like Scarecrow but without the gases.

    Nunya BiznesNunya BiznesAcum 2 luni
  • Nah the best stock episode is the one we had the whole of last year... The pandemic episode. Like you don't realise how many pandemic-based episodes there are in sci-fi until you go through watching for them.

    Alonzo CAlonzo CAcum 2 luni
  • This video is somehow really thought provoking and terrifying at the same time. Red was talking about how everyone sees people differently and people see themselves different to how others see them and I just had like 5 existential crises in two seconds and it somehow helped? I have no clue, good day.

    The Pen DragonThe Pen DragonAcum 2 luni
  • i really liked when the owl house did this

    Mai MillerMai MillerAcum 2 luni
  • (INFINITY TRAIN SPOILERS!) When you mentioned that "fear episodes" are a way to explore a hero's character arc, I realized that in "infinity Train", Grace is a very special case of this. She's technically not a hero, in the sense that she was previously the antagonist of Book 2. But when she shares her worst fears by the end of Book 3, this allows the audience to see a whole new facet to her, a vulnerable side. She admits she's afraid of "being wrong, of disappointing others, of not being enough". All her actions were driven by her fears. Once she acknowledges her fears, and how her actions have lead to her worst fears coming true all the same, it marks the beginning of her personal growth. All in all, the beauty of "fear episodes" is that we get to see the hero grow because they acknowledged they're afraid and confront that fear.

    team10leader1team10leader1Acum 2 luni

    ArentheAcrimoniousArentheAcrimoniousAcum 2 luni
  • One of my favorite versions of this stock episode comes from Heartcatch Precure. In the episode the characters have to choose to go through their greatest fears in order to gain their strongest ability. We see each character have to confront a physical manifestation of their worst fears and past selves, however none of them win by beating this fear- they do it by accepting it. By understanding that their fears and past actions are a part of them, and that the only way they can grow is to keep moving past them. Another series that does something similar to this is Persona (particularly Persona 4) and I really really love both of them.

    Bree G. DavisBree G. DavisAcum 2 luni
  • I’m a bit mad how Star Wars the Clone Wars hasn’t been referenced at least 300 times in this series

    Key SmakkaKey SmakkaAcum 2 luni
  • 15:21 idk if this is cannon but in LEGO Batman 3 beyond Gotham (spoiler alert for a 6 almost 7 year old game) in the level an aw-quard situation it is revealed that the one thing Batman is afraid of is seeing robin/his friends in serious danger

    galning 27galning 27Acum 2 luni
  • Red: basic fears like the fear of clowns is usually treated as a joke. Me: not for Sam Winchester. It shows that after all the monsters he's fought he's not afraid of them. The only thing that scares him is a basic phobia... Clowns.

    simply one hell of a nekosimply one hell of a nekoAcum 2 luni
  • One of Superman's worst dreams was...a good dream. What if Krypton never blew up? The Man who Has Everything, was a show where the Black Mercy gave Superman a good dream, which would eventually kill him.

    Tim KramarTim KramarAcum 2 luni
  • 7:20 Ah yes, my greatest fear... INTIMACY.

    Evan KurasuEvan KurasuAcum 2 luni
  • osp + tma? i can die happy thank you

    Mira CAMMira CAMAcum 2 luni
  • 2:51 pretty much every Undertale character then...

    Wing Dings_17Wing Dings_17Acum 2 luni
  • Extremely funny to me that you used an Audio clip from 'The Piper' because that is like, the single episode of The Magnus Archives that I just can't listen to because it's so boring.

    The_IdeaistThe_IdeaistAcum 2 luni
  • 1.) It took you saying "because hawkgirl had psychic shielding" to put together why that was significant, having finished the show a couple of months ago. 2.) Your description of the Magnus Archives sounded very similar to the SCP foundation

    Add InfinitumAdd InfinitumAcum 3 luni
  • Seeing the Justice League cartoon really brought back a wave of nostalgia I honestly can’t really explain.

    Alyssa BrhyteAlyssa BrhyteAcum 3 luni
  • the flash 🤝 kaminari denki do i even need to explain

    emma mazemma mazAcum 3 luni
  • Absolutely love the magnus archives and this channel and I can say with 100% accuracy that yes, it really is a doozy

    Hayden KHayden KAcum 3 luni